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Hello one and all first this first is Ruach the lazy paladin will be coming back for casual play in April, and for grinding raiding after June 10th! I to get myself back into SoD I have a proposal I would hope the GM's would consider. The goal of the proposal is to add value to the donors...

My apologies if you took offense to how I applied your statements to my logic of the rules. I am still waiting for a clear answer as to who is harmed by my proposition, and how this fits within the original intent of rule that being keeping undertier people from paying for raid slots. Can you...

People who join my pug raid have 0 claim to anything. Since joining my effort the forgo any claim to loot. Are you saying that any random combination of players has an absolute claim to any loot anywhere on the server at any time? Therefore they cannot be selling me anything other then their...

As stated before :Loot distribution is up to the organizers. This is not targeting raid mobs, merely trash players exp of of raid trash on a regular basis. players #7-18 are merely assisting me to kill the trash, I can pay people how i see fit for this service. I am not buying anything, in...

Since there are no "raid targets" involved so clearly your rules about rewarding a players with items obtained only from the raid cannot apply, this is simply7-18 players exping off trash mobs So your saying I cannot create additional incentive for a player to help me with this one single type...

Yes, but you see the trash is up when the raid targets aren't therefore it easier to arrange a pug raid for trash farming, and you can kill just trash with less people. Besides no one has answered the question "If it is my pug raid/group and can assign loot as I see fit, how it it wrong to...

thats basically the ethics behind my point, I am not even talking about tons of pp like a couple k per item to be lotto'd, just to provide some other then absurdly anemic exp as a reward for helping me.

right but it is my pug raid, i can assign the loot however i see fit, just like i can in an exp group, if i choose to be nice and give some pp to players whats the issue? the players are not selling me the loot rights, as it is my pug raid they have agreed ahead of time to let me manage loot as...

that was my understanding, too keep people from selling raid slots. I am just hiring someone to provide a service, such as a port, or buff, helping me level, or doing a craft combine

another thought, If 18 players choose to exp together, not targeting a specific raid target just killing trash for example, the leader of those players could clearly define the loot rules, and he could pay the other 17 members of the raid for helping him exp in the manner he sees fit?

regarding "Selling no drop items It is not allowed to 'sell' loot rights to any no drop item, be it a quest item, raid loot, or ancient/relic/archaic turn-in pieces. (Hint: these items are no-drop for a reason; if we wanted you to sell them they would be droppable.) This includes payment in...